On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:55 AM, chuck davis <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> The problem is neither address the issue of tender.
> Couldn't resist!
Yeah, I used the wrong term. :)
I guess I didn't know what to call "stuff that will take a spark".
The magnseium takes the spark with the magnseium firestarter, thus you only
With the swedish firestarter types you appear to need something that takes a
spark before you can even jump to tender.
BTW, Mark, I assume there's a reason why the old Magnesium fire starters
aren't as popular. I don't know if it's a weight thing, wether the newer
styles give off more spark, or perhaps simply the new ones are quicker to
use becuase you don't need to scrape off a bunch of magnesium.
They are extremely cheap though, so if you want to do a comparison and let
us all know that would be pretty cool. :)
BTW, where I'm at. I just use a lighter. I actually do sometimes pack two
depending on how light I'm going. One in the cook kit and one nice and
accessible in the outer pocket of my pannier next to my multi-tool knife and
tiny camp headlamp. I've ditched matches and never really done more then
experiment with the flint. If I do carry two lighters this is more for
convience then reliability. Though lighters are not completely reliable I
must say with my type of spring, summer, fall touring fire is a
non-essential. In the rarity a lighter fails I can do witout hot food for an
evening and pick up a new one the next time I pass a store or gas station.
I guess fire is a little more important in the winter, but as long as I
have spare set of dry clothes and a good sleeping bag it's still not
Oh, on rare occasions I do carry a bit of fire stick. I usually use it more
like a match and then blow it out for reuse again later. If I do build a
fire as opposed to just using my stove I usually don't have a problem
finding some sort of tender, even if it's just scrap packaging from dinner.
Though I love touring in more remote places, remote is a relative term. I am
not after all hiking in backcountry. I don't need to purify water, don't
even bother to carry TP most of the time. Anywhere I go in the midwest I'm
never more then an hours ride from the nearest gas station or store. It's
both a blessing and a curse, but it means I can afford to go ultra-light.
And by ultralight I mean using a Fosters can as a pot, bivying, sleeping
under a tarp, carrying a 3oz wood stove and a 15oz sleeping bag (in the
I can push that envelope of durability right to the brink of failure in most
cases. Although I'm not quite ready to use a styrafoam cup as a bowl like
some of those crazy ultralight backpacking people. :)
Pretty much everyting is fail-able, particularly in summer touring, except
for the bike itself, particularly the weelsets and secondarily the drive
train. Not a place to go light for me.
> Cash, Czech or Plastic????
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:30 AM, mmeiser <touring-at-bikelist.org@
> mmeiser.com> wrote:
>> Vasaline and cotton balls. I hear it's pretty much the most amazing fire
>> starter there is bought or made.
>> It'll even take a spark off a flint.
>> Burns for quite awhile too.
>> I've heard great things about both the firesteels you've mentioned. I'm
>> guessing you can't go wrong with either.
>> The problem is neither address the issue of tender.
>> I have an old magnesium chunk with a flint on one side. Scrape off enough
>> magnesium and you could light anything on fire.
>> Old school:
>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:44 PM, MH <hoagy-CSKG04oV0gemail@example.com> wrote:
>> > I'm not to up on starting a fire without
>> > matches and I'd like to be prepared in
>> > wet conditions so I found this interesting --
>> > Swedish FireSteel (00:56)
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-bmu6HT-9A
>> > Light My Fire Firesteel Scout $12
>> > http://www.rei.com/product/737335
>> > I'm certainly open to other ideas.
>> > I have carried farmer match sticks in
>> > a canister before over the decades but
>> > you've probably realized I'm pretty
>> > thrifty but I'd like something I can
>> > depend upon. Your help it appreciated!
>> > -Mark Hoagy
>> > I'm thinking of just order the two items from --
>> >> Bowie Machete 12" $21
>> >> http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-Bowie-Machete-12/dp/B0017KS5DQ
>> >> Pocket Chainsaw $29
>> >> http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Chainsaw-1102/dp/B000LNQA50
>> >> Anyone have better prices & a more convenient
>> >> ordering location for these two items?
>> >> Thank you,
>> >> -Mark Hoagy
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> Chuck Davis
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> When ya really bored and/or otherwise want to understand just how cool a
> dude I yam, czech the deranged drivel and nonsense below:
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